Editor’s Note: For those that didn’t catch the reference, it’s a play on the ‘If You Give a Mouse a Cookie’ story. Essentially, if give a mouse a cookie, he’s going to want some milk to wash it down with… and straw to drink the milk… and and a napkin to wipe his face… and so on…
In the Beginning…
About 3.5 years ago, I replaced my aging GTX 1080 gaming desktops with a couple of 30-series systems. Between inflation, parts availability, and AI demands, the market wasn’t great, and it’s only gotten worse.
At the time, I’d planned to buy another iBUYPOWER system, but due to shipping delays, I had to cancel the order and spend over $500 per system more than I originally budgeted. I usually target the upper end of the previous generation of hardware, I feel I missed the mark this time around…
Not long (perhaps a week or two) after I pulled the trigger on our two PCs, and before they began the build, they’d upgraded the model I’d bought from 12th gen to 13th gen, but did not create a new item in their sales system, so I found about it because subsequent updates to my order read “13700K” and “13600K ” respectively rather than the 12th gen series I actually bought. I did reach out to them to see if I’d get a free upgrade, but that was too much to hope for…
By then, DDR4 (what these systems shipped with) was getting long in the tooth, and DDR5 had been around for at least two years. Beyond that, there were other issues with their packing, resulting in feet being shorn off, and while the system pictured in the ad featured strimmers, it turned out they wanted an extra $120 per system…
I used them once again to purchase a pre-built system to replace Jim’s aging laptop. They weren’t my first go-to (I started with Amazon, but had to abandon that route due to logistical issues), but to their credit, they went out of their way to accommodate shipping to Mexico. Unfortunately, Jim didn’t get much use out of it as he passed 3 weeks later… So far as I can tell, he was happy with the purchase, and the price was right ($~1,100, closer to $1,400 with shipping).
Even so, I wouldn’t make another purchase from them today, nor can I recommend them for reasons I’ll get into later…
Treat Yo’self [sic], as the Young People Say…
After a long and expensive home renovation, I decided to treat myself to a GPU upgrade (call it a late birthday present ^_^), so I started looking at 5080 series cards. I considered waiting for a 5080 Ti or Super to come out, but my research suggested they weren’t going to hit the shelves anytime soon, or at an attractive price point.
I settled on a GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5080 Gaming OC 16G, which was a good combination of cost ($1,500 + tax), performance, cooling, and noise. I looked at some more expensive 5080s, but as far as I could tell, the performance was comparable (or even a little worse), and they were asking $200-500 more for slightly cooler/quieter fans.
I figured since I was splurging on a fancy new GPU, I may as well upgrade my RAM as well, but after going down the voltage/timing rabbit hole, I realize things aren’t like they used to be, and I can’t just slap another two identical sticks in the spare sockets and call it a day without risking a hit to performance and/or stability, but not before pulling the trigger on the purchase (another $300), which I’m just went ahead and returned unopened.
What I also failed to realize is that my 850W PSU would be the bare minimum for an RTX 5080 and would need a 12V-2×6 (16-pin) connector instead of the triple 8-pin connectors I’m using now for the RTX 3080… Yes, I could just use the adapter that comes with the GPU, but if I was already spending $1,500 on a GPU, what’s another $180 for some peace of mind… I ended up purchasing another Corsair RM1000x ATX 3.1 (1000W), which should give the card plenty of headroom…
Decisions, Decisions!
At this point, I started thinking about what it would cost to just go ahead and upgrade the motherboard, RAM, and CPU as well. If I were to go that route, and that’s a BIG if, I’d be looking at…
- $200 for a new Z890 Motherboard
- $350 for an Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Processor
- $750+ for 64GB of DDR5 5600 CL28 RAM
In total, about $1,300 + Tax…
Of course, we haven’t even talked about my monitor yet!
I currently have an old Acer Predator XB241H, a 24″ 1080p 144Hz gaming monitor. I bought it in 2018, and it’s served me faithfully for years. Conventional wisdom suggests that lower resolution is better for higher frame rates, which is true, provided your CPU can keep up! My CPU cannot, and so I end up with a huge swing between high and low FPS…
Upping the resolution means the GPU has to work harder, balancing the equation of CPU, GPU, and Resolution. At first, I figured I may as well make the jump to 4K, but after talking it over with a friend, I was convinced to consider 1440p instead. I currently have three monitors on my PC in a TIE Fighter configuration:
While I’m gaming, I can have Discord on one side and a web browser on the other, and look things up as I need to while saving on horizontal space. The trouble is, I don’t have a lot of room on either side, since the triple-monitor stand I’ve had since 2014ish in Saudi Arabia was only intended for 21-24″ monitors, and most 1440p (and 4K) monitors are 27″ and larger.
I considered buying a 27″ 4K Gigabyte OLED monitor for $534 (heavily discounted open box special), but decided not to chance it, and after further consultation with my friend, I decided to go with an AOC Gaming Q27G4ZMN:
It was $300 for the 180Hz version, but I decided to pay an extra $30 and get the 240Hz model. This was a good balance of resolution for the size of the monitor, color range, contrast, refresh rate, and durability (OLEDs can, and do, burn in, and they’re about double the price). Of course, then I needed to spend another $65 on a bigger triple-monitor stand, but I’m sure I’ll find a use for the old one :).
Too Good to Pass Up!
The rest of the build was still nagging at me, and while I argued with myself back and forth, Newegg decided for me:
- G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 series 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36 RAM ($885)
- MSI PRO X870-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($180 on sale, not the best-in-class, but not bad!)
- Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU ($465)
- Corsair 3500X RS-R ARGB case ($80)
- MSI MAG Coreliquid A13 240 AIO CPU Radiator/Cooler ($85) – Free gift, not listed in the ad
That’s nearly $1,700 worth of kit for $940? Even Gollum couldn’t say ‘no’ to that!
NOTE: The astute among you will notice that the screenshot above shows that this combo is Out of Stock, which it is (at the time of writing), but it was available this morning when I placed my order :).
Aside: Intel versus AMD Processors
Throughout my 20s, I could not afford high-quality computer parts, so I built computers as cheaply as possible. That often meant the least expensive AMD Processors and Radeon graphics cards.
At one point, I’d spent some money and upgraded my desktop PC to a Core i7 2700K with 16GB of DDR3 RAM and a modest 120GB SSD. I think my videocard at the time was an Nvidia GTX 285.
Beginning with my first iBUYPOWER mobile workstations forward, I’d gone Intel/Nvidia by default, especially Nvidia for GPUs, as, in my mind, I still associated AMD with budget builds, and Intel/Nvidia with quality…
“2Kliks” Philip Dyer did a great video a few years back that really articulated the history of Intel versus AMD far better than I have here, and it’s well worth the watch. In doing so, it seems to me my biases were justified, at least at the time! But times change!
AMD’s Ryzen series has made a big comeback in the last few years, but nevertheless, I’ve stuck with Intel as my default. Even when my research seemed to suggest that, for gaming, the Ryzen 7 9800X3D was one of the best processors money could buy, I dismissed this, instead, seeking out my familiar Core i7 equivalent, which I’d pegged as the gold standard for Desktop and Mobile CPUs. Sure, there was eventually a Core i9 series, but that just meant more cores, and I wasn’t even using all of the ones I had now…
I tell myself that more cores = better, and that the Ryzen X3D series isn’t as good as Intel Core Ultra for multitasking and productivity. What if I wanted to host my own LLM GML coding buddy, or spin up a few VMs to test new games on?
“Look, Nattie. That’s called ‘Copium’!”
The plain truth is, if it weren’t for the ridiculous prices of DDR5 RAM, or if there were an equivalent combo deal for an Intel 270K Plus for the same price (despite the Intel processor retailing for $100 less than the AMD 9800X3D), I would have bought that instead…
Fool, though I might be, I know a deal when I see one! Given how quickly these sold out, I feel sure I will end up with a more performant system despite my long-standing biases working against me.
What Are My Plans for the Rest of the Kit?
The existing Corsair iCUE 100i Capellix Elite is still nicer than the MSI one I got with the bundle, however, because I don’t have the box/accessories it came with, I would need a $12 AMD CPU Adapter Bracket and Standoffs so I can reuse it for the 9800X3D. The same goes for the case, which is objectively inferior to my Corsair 4000D.
Although it will be more work, I figured the best long-term solution would be to put my old Intel System in the new case, which I could keep around as a spare… maybe use it as a server!
What Was the Damage?
All in, this little jaunt has cost me:
- $1,500 for the RTX 5080 GPU
- $180 for the 1000W PSU
- $940 for the CPU, Motherboard, RAM, a spare case, and an AIO CPU cooler
- $400 for a new monitor and stand
Total: $3,020 ($2,620 without the monitor and new stand)
I wanted to get a sense of what this would cost from the builder who put together my current systems, and they were asking $5,198, or about twice what I paid…
To be fair, adding up the parts in their spec sheet came to $4,367.39, or about a 20% mark-up, and for what? Lousy cable management, terribly shipping/customer service, and a warranty I’ll never use?
No, sir! I’m going back to my roots and building my own from now on…
Coda
The parts are slowly shuffling in, starting with my Monitor, and what surprised me was that cranking up to 1440p resolution had an even bigger impact on my overall performance than I expected! To my surprise, many of the artifacts and grainy bits disappeared, and my CPU no longer chokes on frames! My GPU is working harder (as it should), but the odd bit is that my RAM usage is much higher than normal!
I kept asking myself whether or not 64GB really mattered, and at this point, I think it does! I’ll post more updates next week as I complete my build(s).






































